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#9: Jessica Multini — Tending To Our Internal Injustices with Ritual & Reflection

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In this time we are asked to walk the “twin-trail,” to balance the necessity for action in the world, as well as take responsibility for that which our current climate is reflecting within ourselves. Jessica is the founder at MEISOU, a brand supporting people in embedding rituals of mindfulness and meaning into their everyday life. As a Brazilian women, global traveller and mindfulness facilitator in-training at UCLA, I’ve always admired her ability to honour her internal landscape and integrate both action and insight.


In this spacious and tender conversation we explore how we might honour our privilege in this time, tending to the work we must do within ourselves whilst also taking wisdom-guided action. If you’re also sitting with questions surround how to show up in this time, what “sacred activism” means in this time and where to place your energy, this one might just offer some feathers for your tool-bag. 


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Guest bio


Jessica is the founder of MEISOU, a lifestyle brand and community supporting people in embedding rituals of mindfulness and meaning into their lives; through products, retreats and experiences. As a mindfulness-facilitator in training at UCLA MARC, she has been someone I’ve admired for her ability to honour and integrate both the ‘inner’ and ‘outer’ work, especially in times when radical self, cultural and systemic renewal are vital.

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#8: Mac Macartney — Elderhood and Protecting The Children’s Fire

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Acknowledging the fragility, tenderness and humility required in this time, Mac is someone I admire for his ability to form relationships across cultures and generations in order to bridge worlds.


He has worked with Indigenous elders over many years and has incredible insight and experience in forming mutually-beneficial relationships so as to form genuine alliances, rooted in reverence. I share this conversation in this time, as we explore what it means to be in relationship with who Mac’s guides name The Original Elder, Earth herself.


We explore what it might take to form trusted alliances across generations, races and culture; to form mentor-relationships with elders in a reverent and honouring manner and to connect to the Original Elder as our meeting place in this time. From this place, how might we tend to systemic injustices, inequalities of all manners and to difference?


Join us for a conversation that Mac might remark as an act of “lifting our eyes to the privilege of being alive with possibility.”


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Guest bio


Mac is an international speaker, writer, change-maker and Founder of Embercombe. Mentored by indigenous people over many years, he has acquired profound and original insights into questions preoccupying many contemporary leaders. Mac seeks to inspire the emergence of the leader in each of us, the leader who will take courageous action for a better world.

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Opening Poem: The Children’s Fire

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#6: Sahana Chattopadhyay — Facilitating Emergence & Generative Communities

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Holding an integrated lens and philosophy for practice, while practicing in very specific and nuanced ways is a skill of ‘dexterity’ I admire greatly.


It’s one that I admire in Sahana Chattopadhyay, and one that we explore in detail in our conversation here. Exploring a radical shift in the way we view organisations, communities and the role of leaders within them.


We explore what might happen if we saw organisations as communities, the soft skills of facilitating emergence, befriending uncertainty, generative dialogue and self-practices for resilience. Join us for a supportive and enlivening conversation.


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Guest bio


Sahana is a writer, sense-maker and facilitator exploring emergence & thrivability in a complex, ambiguous world. As Founder and Facilitator at Proteeti, she supports teams and organisations to not only navigate but thrive in our complex world.


Her detailed articulation of the art of space-holding and facilitation is something I personally admire greatly. As something that is often reduced to sticky-notes, group-agreements and salt lamps, Sahana has a depth of understanding in the subtle and nuance threads of what it means to ‘facilitate.’

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Opening Poem: Action, The True Professional – Margaret Wheatley

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