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#6: Sahana Chattopadhyay — Facilitating Emergence & Generative Communities

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Holding an integrated lens and philosophy for practice, while practicing in very specific and nuanced ways is a skill of ‘dexterity’ I admire greatly.


It’s one that I admire in Sahana Chattopadhyay, and one that we explore in detail in our conversation here. Exploring a radical shift in the way we view organisations, communities and the role of leaders within them.


We explore what might happen if we saw organisations as communities, the soft skills of facilitating emergence, befriending uncertainty, generative dialogue and self-practices for resilience. Join us for a supportive and enlivening conversation.


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Guest bio


Sahana is a writer, sense-maker and facilitator exploring emergence & thrivability in a complex, ambiguous world. As Founder and Facilitator at Proteeti, she supports teams and organisations to not only navigate but thrive in our complex world.


Her detailed articulation of the art of space-holding and facilitation is something I personally admire greatly. As something that is often reduced to sticky-notes, group-agreements and salt lamps, Sahana has a depth of understanding in the subtle and nuance threads of what it means to ‘facilitate.’

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#5: Gilbert Rochecouste — Placemaking, Localism and Weaving Community in the New Story

Episode description and synopsis


Gilbert is an emerging elder, globally renowned placemaker and steward of the New Story I personally respect deeply. We’ve facilitated and shared the stage many times but rarely get a chance to dive into dialogue on the topics we care for so deeply.


In this rich conversation we explore the role of place in restoring connection, the exciting meeting of our original placemakers – our Indigenous elders – and community builders of today, “burning your own wood” and practical things we can do to re-weave our communities locally and Gilbert’s 6 pillars to the emerging new story.


This one is most-definitely for those of us feeling to play our humble role in stewarding a regenerative and life-affirming way forward. 


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Guest bio


Gilbert is founder of Village Well, a globally recognised placemaking consultancy (re)connecting people to place. He is a community catalyst and group-facilitator I personally admire greatly and have shared the stage and facilitation floor with many times.


As an emerging elder in this space and the ushering in of a New Story, Gilbert is currently sensing what elderhood is asking of him, holding circle with elders of our indigenous cultures and responding to the Great Turning of our time.

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#4: Dr. Arne Rubinstein — Ritual, Integration and the Death of Normal

Episode description and synopsis


Timely, potent and deeply personable, friend and fellow facilitator, Dr. Arne Rubinstein from the Rites of Passage Institute and I explore the core elements of an initiatory rites of passage process.


Mapping it against our collective ‘container’ of change, also known as COVID-19, we explore the roles of ritual, storytelling, community honoring and reckoning with the death of something within and between us.


Keeping our minds and hearts both in the practical and philosophical, we explore some of the practicalities of ritual-design and how to facilitate your own rituals for transition, as well as the invisible and liminal space of the unknown, apprenticing ourselves to what we are being beckoned to become. 


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Guest bio


Dr. Arne is a globally recognised facilitation expert and keynote speaker on the topics of Rites of Passage, adolescent development, parenting, corporate leadership and transformational processes.


Over 150,000 people world wide have attended the programs he helped to create. He brings his 30 years of experience as a medical doctor, mentor and workshop facilitator to design programs for schools, businesses and families.

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